Interview with Ayana Gray

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About the Interviewee: “Ayana Gray is a New York Times-bestselling author of speculative fiction. Her works have been translated in more than a dozen languages across five continents and have received critical acclaim at the state and national level. Originally from Atlanta, Georgia, she now lives and writes in Arkansas” (Bio from author’s website).

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Thank you to Ayana Gray for taking the time to interview with us at Pine Reads Review! Her new YA book, Hawk & Sparrow, is out now from Balzer + Bray, and you can read our review of it here!

Keonte Emerson: Where did the initial idea for Hawk & Sparrow come from? Was there any particular personal experience, conversation, or moment that inspired you to write this story?

Ayana Gray: For better or for worse, the ideas for my stories never come from a single idea. My process looks more like gathering kindling and scraps for a bonfire and hoping it’ll catch. By the time the fire has burned out, I often can’t remember those little scraps anymore. For Hawk & Sparrow, though, I knew I wanted to write a story set in a world inspired by The Gilded Age, and I wanted to challenge myself to write something whimsical and multi-genre.

KE: What was the very first piece of this story that came to you? Was it one of the characters, a specific scene, the mystery plot, or was it something else?

AG: I write most of my books chronologically, so the first piece of the story that came to me was the beginning scene. As I outlined, I didn’t know where things would go, but I had a very strong sense of place from the start. I knew the book would open on a crisp autumn night, and I knew the main character had a strong aversion to sorcery. The rest came to me as I outlined, drafted, and revised.

KE: Hawk & Sparrow has all the beautiful twists and turns of a murder mystery whilst still making room for Vesper and Max’s relationship to develop. How did you strike that balance without one element overshadowing the other?

AG: Thank you! This was my first truly multi-genre book, so figuring out how to balance mystery, history, fantasy, and romance was challenging at times. Fortunately, I worked with a terrific editor who pointed out the areas where things didn’t feel balanced! This is why we revise!

KE: One detail that kind of resonates with me was Vesper’s use of the acronym “MOM”: motive, opportunity, and means. Given that she lost her mother at such a young age, I can’t help but wonder if there was a deeper connection there. Was that an intentional choice?

AG: You’re the first person to make that connection! In honesty, I didn’t deliberately make the acronym ‘MOM’ to mean anything specific. The reason I leaned into it so heavily was because this was my first murder mystery and I needed to keep those things front of mind as I wrote. In a way “Motive, Opportunity, Means,” helped keep the narrative focused.

KE: Something I noticed is that the book doesn’t just ask who gets to be powerful, it also asks who gets overlooked. Whether it’s Vesper, Max, Ada, the union workers, or the Thally Rousers, so many characters are dealing with assumptions others place on them. What drew you to explore the different ways people can be underestimated?

AG: Thank you for noticing! Personally and professionally, I am always really interested in the way power is distributed within a society. More times than not, we assess a person’s value based on their perceived power, which I think is always a mistake. Something I love about Hawk & Sparrow is that we get to see lots of characters grapple with different kinds of power (or lack thereof) despite their race, gender, or social status.

KE: Having read the Beasts of Prey Trilogy, I, Medusa, and now Hawk & Sparrow, I noticed that your female characters (whether they’re the leads or supporting characters) often refuse to be defined by the roles society expects them to play. What makes you return back to writing about women who push against those boundaries?

AG: I think, like many writers, I’m subconsciously writing what I want to see, or didn’t see as a kid. Growing up, I was a Black girl who often felt forced into prescribed boxes based on societal expectations. That was a frustrating and at times heartbreaking experience. The stories I write encourage people to push against expectations and be themselves because I really think that is the key to finding genuine inner peace in this world.

KE: One quote that really stayed with me was, “Perhaps a woman didn’t have to live in a cage if only she was brave enough to break free of it.” Jo Thally embodies that idea of refusing to let other people’s expectations define her. When you were beginning your own journey as an author, was there a woman or another person in your life who inspired you to challenge expectations or pursue something others might not have expected of you?

AG: I’ve been lucky to have had many women in my life who’ve encouraged me to push against the status quo. As an author, I greatly admire Sabaa Tahir. She is a wonderful friend now, but as a debut she was also an invaluable resource who encouraged me to be [an] advocate for myself as a professional creative. I am incredibly grateful to know her.

KE: For me, Hawk & Sparrow felt deeply connected to autumn, from the setting and atmosphere to the way the season kind of shapes the story. With the book releasing September 1st, was that seasonal connection something you thought about during the writing or publication process?

AG: Absolutely! From the start, this book was intrinsically tied to autumn from the beginning. I was delighted when my editors in the U.S. and U.K. respected that vision enough to publish Hawk & Sparrow right at the beginning of the season.

KE: Since Hawk & Sparrow is releasing in the fall, and knowing Max’s love for all things sweet, I have to ask: what drink and pastry would you pair with this book for the perfect autumn reading experience?

AG: Ooh, I love this question! I actually gave Vesper one of my favorite cozy treat pairings in Hawk & Sparrow: a warm buttered croissant with hot chocolate (preferably with French vanilla).

KE: And that’s our interview! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my questions. What’s next for you? Are there any upcoming projects or stories you’re excited to share with us?

AG: Thank you for such lovely questions! Right now I’m working on multiple projects. My next will more than likely be another adult novel that I often refer to as I, Medusa’s “cousin.”

Keonte Emerson, Pine Reads Review Co-Assistant Director, Lead Writer, and Social Media Manager


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